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What are the benefits of Nuclear War again; I must have missed that point?
Indian and Pakistan and nuclear war. What does the world lose if India and Pakistan have a nuclear war? Well in Southern India; in the cities of Hyderabad, Banglore, and Coimbatore there are many students who come to America and learn our technologies and bring their hard work ethic and ideas. Once here they often join others and start companies. These people bring their brains and give much to America and since they work harder and study harder than most American students they achieve higher positions and are able to excel faster which adds to the innovation and new innovations in America. No they are not all Patels and no thy do not all run hotels. This is a bad thing to lose this flow of brains to America. We actually go there to recruit the best and brightest. http://www.sristi.org/Sristi%20scouting.htm http://www.bell-labs.com/news/2000/june/5/1.html And what are other issues such as Fallout? Well wouldn't it be a bummer if Pakistan fired on India first and then the fallout blew back over them and to the north too, where all the Afghanistan people we tried to save with our human aid died of radiation poisoning and fallout? But winds do not stop at borders that are man made they continue to flow and it is estimated that it would cause an additional minimum of 12 million more deaths besides those that fried, and the countless others affected would be astronomical and many would not die who wish they did. What is the benefits to Nuclear War, now many say there are none. Can you think of any "Lance Winslow" - If you have innovative thoughts and unique perspectives, come think with Lance; www.WorldThinkTank.net/wttbbs
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